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Scam - 100% of it. Already dobbed with Internal Affairs

I get this as spam. So I decided to click on the links. The link runs a little executable which then generates a fake html newspaper page taking into account your location - it will then show a report about a fictional name from your area (remember it uses your location from windows to determine your area) that has become successful from this HCFS scheme. I then checked the links and on the page and they all point to the page where it takes your credit card. Nothing links to weather or business or anything like any newspaper would. I traced their website hosting and it shows TrinityData - and Florida. My suspicions - I called the contact number on their intro page and someone answered from Florida. From my research of the TrinityData looks like a service provider or hosting datacentre. Their website - shows - some phrase about a belief in Christ. I tested all the email addresses on the site and none of them worked. I then found another site from DNS that relates and registered with the same owner and the email on that one worked. So I emailed it and asked if they believed in Jesus and all that and he only said "yes" and that was it. So I put all this together - this is a Christian or a religion of something that is running a scam and I'm thinking some cult like followers are probably the ones working and answering the phone because the girl that answered the phone specifically said this is a Church scheme. So there you are - look up DNS and trace TrinityData and it's aliases and you will find some interesting info. This is a religious group of people that run this scam to lure people in with their identity and mostly for their credit card numbers. I have dobbed them right away to Internal Affairs Scam watch - watch out for these sorts of schemes there is really nothing in it but fictional info that anyone could think of. To trace - use DNS Search and geoBytes and iP2. HCFS is a SCAM

Very poor quality

I have spent the last few weeks learning & working this program which promises the to have 10 ready to go internet products for you to use to start your business. They do have 10 products, all but one are downloadable "books" on subjects ranging from tattoo designs, dieting systems, to how to catch a cheating spouse. The other product is a watch TV on your computer program.

Home Cash Flow Solutions tells potential buyers like me that the 10 products have predesigned websites ready for immediate upload. The suggested retail is $49.99 for each product.

The predesigned websites are very cheap in appearance, they contain spelling & grammatical errors, they have very little appeal & nothing to recommend them. The products are not worth anything, it would be impossible to find customers willing to pay $5 much less $50 for them. When I researched several of the products I found that the Watch TV on your computer program is free from the person who invented it.

On each of the websites there are links where you email for support. No where in the literature does HCFS tell you what you are supposed to do with that. How would any of us be prepared to answer questions about the stuff they want us to sell? If someone where to buy the books or products they would certainly be angry, & I am sure demand a refund because the books are just a few pages of poorly written, unattractive nothing.

Although HCFS tells you that you can price the items at whatever you want, they also tell you that giving away something for free is the best attraction to pull visitors to your website.

I was lured into this purchase by the full refund promise only to discover the fine print makes getting a refund almost impossible. Furthermore, when you first go the HCFS website the cost is $97. But, before you check out, they offer upgrades which are also totally refundable. Almost $400 later you have your package & you are ready to start. I later learned, that should you decide not to buy the program, when you try to close the window they offer the program for half price!

The HCFS web training covers the basics of finding a host, buying your web space, opening a PayPal account, choosing your product & more. The first thing they tell you to do is call their help number to set up your personal tutor.

Well, this is where the scamming really begins because they take your number & someone calls you back. But they are not calling you to help you or to answer questions, they are calling to set you up for the really big sale. That is, "if you qualify". Qualifying means that you have credit cards with plenty of available credit. They want you to "pull the trigger" immediately & spend as much as $20,000 for advanced training. For this, if you can "follow instructions", you will make tons of money.

Personally, I may have bought a $400 program on the net but it had what I thought was money back policy. I do not commit to a huge purchase from someone I have never met for something that is completely vague after only a brief phone conversation. They do not like that, nor, do they like being ask questions nor do they have references they can give you. They tell you that perhaps you are not, after all, qualified for this "opportunity", that they have made a mistake because you are not a good fit to partner with them.

In this case I started an investigation on the net. The company that owns the place is located in Naples, Fl. According to the BBB it has an F rating. The company trying to sell me the training is located in Utah, they have a better BBB rating. However, I discovered that the man in Utah has been in the "training" business for many years. His name is Jeff Spangler & he owns Premier Mentoring in addition to many other corporations registered in Utah. Spangler has LOTS of companies & I found many complaints about them in various places.