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Pay It Forward 4 Profits Review
Date Added: 6/18/2009     Reviewer: KimberlyAW
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Website URL: http://www.payitforward4profits.com
Company Name: Joel Broughton
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Pay It Forward 4 Profits Description

Pay it Forward, or Pay it Forward 4 Profits to give it its full name, is a program that’s planned, developed and now promoted by the Internet marketing guru Joel Broughton. He has collaborated with another Internet marketing guru Paul Birdsall in this venture. The collaboration has brought forth a system known as funded proposal. Here, a system is put into place that can generate a large number of leads and money for an MLM business. The one benefit of planning an MLM through this route is that there is no need for any cold calling or other ineffective marketing strategies. When the proposal made to a prospect is funded, there is a much greater likelihood of the person joining into the scheme. And, as the network grows, there will be good money for everyone. That is the basic concept of Pay it Forward 4 Profits.

In fact, its peculiar format is the reason it is given this name. When a sponsor within the network funds a proposal to a prospect, the prospect is supposed to in turn fund it to other people. This sets up a chain of paying forward, thus creating a strong network and generating revenue for everyone.

Pay It Forward 4 Profits Detailed Overview

The website of this project is located at http://www.payitforward4profits.com/. This is more of a sales page, but the one good thing is that there are a lot of testimonials with audio and pictures, which make them seem to be real.

Pay it Forward – How does it work?

Pay it Forward is basically an MLM lead generation strategy. The intention is to build a whirlwind of traffic to a website. When you sign up on the program, you get two different websites to call your own. You will also get access to a lot of ideas that can help you generate leads for your business. This is what you get. Now you have to implement those ideas on these websites so that the money starts coming in. One of the things that can help bring money in this online venture of yours is through PPC advertising.

There is one thing about the concept that keeps it from becoming unique. The concept asks you quite blatantly to use other strategies to make more money. With Pay it Forward, you are implementing your MLM strategy, but they would like you to implement other things too so that the amount of money you make in your online business increases. They label the MLM business as the Primary Business, which means there are other things you are expected to do in order to generate the amount of income that they propose.

Also, everything is not quite true and transparent about their sales pitch. For example, they mention on the sales page that it is free to signup. But you soon realize that there are costs involved, mainly because the MLM is not the only thing that you are expected to be doing.

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Pay It Forward 4 Profits Reputation

Actually speaking, there is nothing new to offer here. Pay It Forward contains most of the same strategies that other MLM businesses have, and there’s actually no reason why you should favor this one over other good MLM opportunities. However, because of their feel-good name and slightly different concept, this business has found its takers.

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Definitely a No and Read Below to Find Out Why

I first joined Pay It Forward 4 Profits (PIF4P) in 2007 with very high hopes for the program. At that time, it was basically a grouping of 4 affiliate programs to be promoted all at the same time. Although PIF4P was free to join, 3 of the 4 affiliate programs had monthly fees associated with them.

The idea was to get people signed up for these affiliate programs and then to get these same people to join a traditional style, primary mlm program which, of course, you would already belong to.

One of the affiliate programs was called Traffic Oasis which gave you a monthly supply of leads and an autoresponder to process them. Traffic Oasis was almost $80 per month and had it's own mlm structure for people who signed up under you. The leads, as it turns out, were hopeless and the autoresponder had about an 80% bounce rate.

When you signed up with PIF4P, you were given access to a member's area complete with training lessons and an active forum. The training in this area was actually very good. On February 19,2008 the owner (Joel Broughton) closed out the forum and discontinued the customer support ticketed system. The customer support was very questionable prior to this, anyways.

Recently (December 2010) I tried to log into my member's area just out of curiosity and noticed that it is completely locked out. What happens now if you try to log in is that you are re-directed to a sales page which will allow you to sign up for access to a new member's training area for $29.95 per month.

What this means is that all of the people who previously worked hard to build a business including downlines in PIF4P are now forced to pay the monthly fee in order to have access. Does this sound like a scam to you?

I’m giving PIF4P a very definite thumbs down.

John Baril
 
 


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avatar   by JohnnyParamedic on January 10, 2011 at 3:26 PM CST

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Too much on one plate

I got into network marketing with payitforward4profits myself. One of the good things I learned was watching the videos and the valuable information it taught a newbie like me about internet marketing. I think the whole concept behind this company was to get in early and let your downline pay for your services. The other programs they promoted were not too great. They rarely paid out any type of commission. Like most people after a month or two I lost interest and so did every one else. I did get some good downline members from the co op I bought which was relatively cheap compared to other programs I have joined. And those down line members I have are now with GDI. Unfortunately the website is down. Too bad because it had great videos and information about blogging, article writing, ads and so forth. What else can you say? Another one bites the dust.
 
 


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avatar   by edwardallxclub on November 4, 2010 at 3:49 PM CST

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Great Concept that does NOT deliver the goods

This was one of my first attempts at breaking into network marketing and boy did I fall for their marketing spiel. I joined in 2008 and joined a bunch of their programs, including traffic oasis, for leads. I did receive the leads, but they were useless, not one person on the list of leads that I received was even remotely interested in network marketing. I love the idea of a system that includes leads, autoresponder, and everything else necessary to start, but the price to join all of these programs was not just chump change. I invested over $200 before I figured out that this was not the system to invest in, lesson learned. If Pay It Forward 4 Profit had good solid leads that converted, I might still be there, but unfortunately that was not the case. I give this system a D. Great concept that does NOT deliver.
 
 


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avatar 3,000 Credits - Internet Marketing Expert   by paradisefound on November 30, 2009 at 2:13 PM CST

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Good idea in theory, but not so great

Pay It Forward 4 Profits is a great idea in theory, but the reality is it does not work so well. I originally came across this program when I was trying to promote my GDI website/downline. The program is free to sign up for which at first is tempting. They first have you sign up for TrafficSwarm which is a free program that allows you to promote your site.

TrafficSwarm lets you gain traffic towards your desired site in exchange for you clicking on other peoples sites. This leads to a program where everyone simply clicks and does not look at the other sites seriously, simply to promote their own site. Pay It Forward 4 Profits uses this system which I believe is faulty.

The second problem is that Pay It Forward 4 Profits uses a program called Traffic Oasis to find leads. I was VERY hesitant as they wanted a large sum of money (over $70) to get a list of leads. I decided against my better judgment to purchase a leads package. I got tons of email and phone numbers. I started to contact these individuals, and not ONE person was interested.

Due to the fact this program uses expensive programs which provided no solid leads, I decided to cancel and give it up. I did not get a single lead or sign up the entire time!
 
 


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avatar 5,000 Credits - Internet Marketing Master   by mtomney on November 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM CST

 
 
 
I thought this will help my in my recruiting

I signed up because I thought it will help me with my recruiting. I was trying to follow the steps needed to be successful in MLM. It took me a couple of months of not having any results at it and tried to get help from them specially with Joel Broughton through emails. Everytime I sent them an email about a question or about some concerns, I will get an email asking to sign up and will mention all the benefit to join the program. In other words the email that I was expecting from them to help me with my problems were not getting answered at all. I even signed with two other paid programs that they recommended to make pay it forward 4 profit work. After several email gone I just decided I was not getting the attention I need to be able to make it work.

I decided to cancel the paid program and forget all about Pay it forward 4 profit. I did not even made any money out of it in a couple of months in the program. Up until several months after I was quit I was still getting emails from them telling me about other members making money with it. I just have to hit the spam button in order to stop them from spamming me.
 
 


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avatar   by art92881 on October 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM CST

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Pay it Forward 4 Profits Is A Great Concept.. But

Is the product you're promoting actually worth it? I bought this program about 3 years ago. I was very excited, then quickly disappointed. It contained good instructions on how to succeed using this method.

While I still believe in this concept, it just didn't work for me! I kept getting asked what exactly is the product, and I was a newbie at the time, so I didn't know how to answer that.

I think it's a great concept, but you might need support to be successful.
 
 


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avatar 5,000 Credits - Internet Marketing Master   by popester on July 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM CST

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Pay it forward works fine at what it does, but there are a few things that make it less than stellar. First off is the fact that while it is free to sign up, you won't make much money until you sign up with other things (and pay for them). This to me seems a bit too much like pay it forward is more of a middleman than it claims to be. Then there is the fact that it really offers nothing new to the MLM system.

Thus, I wouldn't exactly recommend this system. It's not new, and though it's free, you still have to be with other companies to make it work, making this a bit extraneous. You could probably do better if you look for something that's more centralized i.e. gives you the tools to make money, even if it costs something to sign up.
 
 


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avatar   by Shai on July 11, 2009 at 11:46 PM CST

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