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Income Cloner 2.0 Review
Date Added: 6/20/2009     Reviewer: Quintile
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Website URL: http://theincomecloner.com
Company Name: Ryder Marketing Inc.
Alexa Traffic Rank: 18,476,940
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Income Cloner 2.0 Description

The Website for the Income Cloner contains the story of how Charles Ryder went from living in a smelly trailer to paying for a large house from the money he earned online. It is your typical rags to riches story. The Website is giving away a free DVD to those saying yes to the offer,and all they need to pay for is shipping and handling. It is also stated on the Website that those requesting the free DVD will be automatically enrolled into a monthly DVD club for $97 a month. This is where the complaints come in.

Income Cloner 2.0 Detailed Overview

When you order the free DVD that is advertised on the Income Cloner Website, you will be automatically enrolled in Charles Ryder's DVD of the month club for $97 a month starting 30 days after requesting the first free DVD. If visitors to the site fail to read all of the print or view the video on the site, they may miss this important information and then be shocked when the money comes out of their account. This is the cause of many complaints lodged against Charles Ryder, Income Cloner and Ryder Marketing Inc.

The free DVD is supposed to reveal the secrets of making $100,000 in the next 12 months. The hour-long DVD, according to some, is of Charles Ryder talking and is of poor quality regarding his speaking ability. The DVD club's purpose is apparently because the monthly DVDs are like having Charles Ryder as a personal mentor. He states that the monthly DVD club membership can be cancelled at anytime by submitting a ticket to the support desk at the site address, internetsupportsite.com, or by calling the support phone number, which is 866-757-6021. It is obvious that he is not trying to hide the fact that there is a DVD club, the monthly charge for the club or how to cancel before being charged the first monthly fee of $97. Anyone complaining of not knowing about the $97 monthly fee or saying they did not know how to cancel simply did not read the Website or listen to the videos. There are some complaints on Internet forums about support tickets not being answered or phone messages that are not able to go through. Charles Ryder has posted on the forums addressing the problems and assuring forum members that everyone who requests a cancellation or refund will be granted these.

Charles Ryder also states that "Explosive Cash System" will be given free to all those who order the free DVD. Explosive Cash System is a $97 course which he says he has sold over 3000 copies. At the present time, the Website states that there are only 3 free DVD copies left.

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Income Cloner 2.0 Reputation

There are numerous complaints on Internet marketing forums about the $97 monthly charge for a DVD club that Charles Ryder enrolls people in automatically when they agree to receive a free DVD. The tactic is a popular one that many DVD music clubs use. Individuals who do not listen to the video on the site or read all of the printed word may not notice that they will be enrolling in a DVD club and may be caught off guard by the monthly charges. There are many complaints of having difficulty canceling or getting refunds. All complaints have been addressed and corrected by Charles Ryder.

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Stay Away From This Culprit!

I bought his so-called "product".

Feel free to read my review and his "support" trying to rectify him in the comment!

Actually, don't even read the review. Just stay clear of this person!

Jane Alice Strand asks us not be too hard on this guy. Well Jane, this culprit has been around and scammed people for so long, that there's no reason to go easy at all!

It's a SCAM - AGAIN!

(Yes, I can prove my claims. I have 3 of his crappy cd's on my bookshelf. )
 
 


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avatar   by johanzen on January 8, 2012 at 9:21 PM CST

 
 
 
Dont' be too hard on this guy!

I ordered this DVD for Free and paid the Shipping to Norway, I am a frequent user of the IMreportcard.com and thank you for this site! It is very useful and very good that people are allowed to tell about their experiences - even if they are different.

On the Internet today for us who are searching to make some extra money or tools to help us reach our aim, I believe I have seen the most of it now after 8 months of buying, testing and I shall say no more. There is a quite big difference in the cultures in this world, I mean in the way of promoting themselves and their products. It seems that Americans love to speak about themselves because the new way is to sell yourself and not the product(Magnetic Sponsoring or Attraction Marketing). That’s why there is a lot of bla bla bla... Mr. Ryder was not as bad as many of the other GURU's out there, he was more natural, with a glint in his eyes and I think maybe a bit nervous in the beginning but that was just charming.

It is NOT easy to make a video like that, try yourself! I have seen much worse! I found him quite entertaining, inspirational and honest! (NO! I have no relationship to him at all, I live in Norway and maybe we Norwegian are more tolerant... ?)

After signing up for the FREE DVD I surfed right to IMreportcard.com (yes I know I should have done it the opposite way... ) to check his product, and there I was reading that this could be a scam, so I canceled DVD no. 2 in a hurry! (Before I got the DVD) but now I think I will cancel my cancellation if it is possible for he has something to tell me which I really want to learn.

He is maybe not the most professional public speaker, what a relief! I found it relaxing and with my tolerance I watched the whole DVD, at the end I just loved him and got a big smile on my face. I think he is telling the truth, and that he honestly will help people to be successful, and show us his way how to get the correct MINDSET and different ways to make money online. So... I look forward to the next DVD.

He did explain that you need the correct MINDSET and have your GOALS SET before you can become successful. That is very true. Like driving a car, you can drive and drive until you get blue in your face, but you will never reach your target before you know where it is, right? 10 points for that!

Give him a second chance, he is young and helpful, ok they should have made more clear that if you accept the FREE DVD, you in fact sign up for a membership. I agree on that one. But there is No need to kill the man for that, he has a lot to teach us, I am sure and have already many great ideas after watching DVD no. 1. I am now signing up for his successcloner and will give a review on that as well.

Kind regards

Jane in Norway
 
 


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avatar   by janeas on April 7, 2011 at 9:00 PM CST

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Charles Ryder's Income Cloner - STEER CLEAR OF THIS RIP OFF

WARNING, WARNING, there is a danger of extreme harm to your finances if you choose to do business with Charles Ryder, or Ryder Marketing, Inc. I learned the hard way, you don't have to, read on and learn from my experience.

Charles Ryder ~ Income Cloner advertises a 'Free' DVD just pay $7.95 for S&H. While the sales letter does have a statement about a membership or subscription about 1/2 way through it (as I learned after the fact), a video at the beginning of the sales page recommends you go immediately to the bottom of the page and order your free DVD now! Also, if you try to exit the page a pop-up appears which allows you to place an order for the 'free' DVD without reading any more of the sales page.

Before I ordered I read the entire terms and conditions (T&C's). There was no mention of joining a membership or subscription in those 'legal' documents. They did state repeatedly that there are NO REFUNDS.

Like many other individuals I was unpleasantly surprised to find a second DVD in my mail box. By the time I received it and tried to reach Ryder Marketing, Inc. , I found my credit card had been billed $104.95 twice($97 + $7.95S&H) for two unwanted DVD's.

I filed a complaint with my credit card company and they issued a refund for the two DVD's and obviously back-charged Ryder Marketing. I also file a complaint with the Attorney General of Michigan (one of the two states Ryder Marketing, Inc. , has addresses in). When I checked the public records I found that Ryder Marketing is NOT a registered corporation in either Illinois or Michigan.

All legal corporations or LLC's are required to register in every state they do business in. As they are not registered in either state (which you can easily verify on your own via a public records search in each of those states) they are obviously NOT a legal or legitimate corporation. If that doesn't tell the story about their honesty and integrity I don't know what does.

I also found numerous complaints filed at Rip Off Reports by those who had been defrauded by Charles Ryder / Ryder Marketing, Inc.

I believed I was risking $7.95 (and nothing more) and realized, according to their T&C's it was non-refundable. I had no idea when I signed up there would be on-going charges to my credit card.

By using a credit card I was able to get my money refunded. If you get the 'free' dvd and pay for S&H with a debit card you are pretty much SCREWED! Don't even think about wasting your time or money on anything from Charles Ryder.

The statement on IMReportCard that Charles Ryder has resolved all complaints is factually incorrect. The person who responded to the Attorney General of Michigan (on behalf of Ryder Marketing) flat-out lied in their reply. I sent absolute proof to the AG refuting all of their lies. They are a bold bunch to lie to the AG. But then they are doing business illegally by using a MI address without being a legitimately registered corporation.

Do yourself a favor and stay away from anything and everything involving Charles Ryder. If there really is such a person he (and those who work with him) are scam artists.
 
 


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avatar   by tom12344 on June 2, 2010 at 10:54 AM CST

 
 
 
Stay as far as possible away from this

I tried Income Clone 2.0 about three and a half month ago and I have to say that the product proved to be one of the biggest scams I have stumbled upon recently. Back then I decided to buy it since it seemed very promising to me and I though that I will really be able to learn something. First thing I have to say is that there was a charge of which no one said there will be and doing this is definitely a fraud. The DVD's I got were not worth it at all. I am almost certain that a lot of the free information you can find all over the internet will actually be more useful to you than this thing. The videos consisted of a guy who was claiming that has made tons of money from scratch but he didn't gave any information on how to achieve this. Watching this was definitely a pointless waste of time. I can't say which of the two videos was more useless but both were very close to the first place. This was one of my worst investments so far. You should definitely stay away from I tried Income Clone 2.0.
 
 


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avatar 5,000 Credits - Internet Marketing Master   by RaZeR on January 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM CST

 
 
 
Whatever you do, do not be fooled by Charles Ryder

From the very beginning I thought that this Charles Ryder character didn't look to me like someone who went from rags to riches. He looked like the next run of the mill scammer. First off he tells you that his video is free, when it's not, you have to pay to get it shipped. The video you receive is a crappy, more elaborate version of the original website video. Then, one month later I receive a second video that I didn't order and find out I was duped into the new "flavor of the month scam", the fine print-subscription. That's where they get you, the fine print. I was instantly enrolled into a monthly subscription to Charles Ryder videos for $97 dollars a month. Long story short, don't bother.
 
 


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avatar   by brokendown2009 on October 11, 2009 at 3:45 PM CST

I have been bent and broken but will carry on!

 
 
 
I wasn't happy

Yep, I too got scammed on this one. A DVD arrived, and was it wasn't helpful at all. I tried to reach someone in tech support several times to request a refund and/or cancel so I wouldn't be charged for the second DVD. No luck. I'm in the process of disputing the charge with my credit card company. Steer clear in my opinion.
 
 


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avatar 2,000 Credits - Top Contributor   by tcole7333 on July 31, 2009 at 10:20 PM CST

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This is a scam!

An absolutely disgusting and disgraceful scam. I would have liked to have been forewarned at least about the charge for the second DVD, as I only saw the deal for the FREE DVD!

Ordered it, and yes it arrived, but what a disappointment! Not a shred of useful information in there, just a man claiming to have gone from trailer park to luxury, but not telling me how I could do this.

Reluctantly I watched the second DVD - the most expensive movie I've ever bought! It was just awful. Just as useless as the first. I was disgusted with myself for allowing this site so have suckered me in. I received no compensation for my dissatisfaction. This is a scam. Be warned, and stay well away!
 
 


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avatar 5,000 Credits - Internet Marketing Master   by bootylicious on July 15, 2009 at 10:35 PM CST

 
 
 
Redundant

Yep I got socked with the charge. I hate to say it but I pretty much skimmed over the page not seeing that I would be charged for the next DVD. I thought it was only one dvd and that it was free.

What bothered me most when playing the dvd was Charles stating over and over and over how he lived in his trailer yada, yada, yada. 30 minutes into the DVD he was still talking about his trailer yada, yada. yada.

Even the second DVD for which I was charged but didn't want, was pretty much the same. Basically it was poorly made home movie. The lighting sucked as he sat in his living room with the very bright windows in the background. The camera struggling with the white and light balance as it tried to compensate for the too intense back light of the window. Charles appeared to be a silhouette because of this. Hopefully he has since redone his DVD's because the ones I got were not very good.
 
 


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avatar   by hsoftware on June 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM CST

 
 
 
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